Frenzy Humanoid Spell is Not Working

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zelazko
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Frenzy Humanoid Spell is Not Working

Post by zelazko » 11 Aug 2019, 21:22

Frenzy Humanoid Spell is Not Working

I don't use any mods that state to explicitly change spells. I used sc_mondensinstigator scroll and the yields same bad results of frenzy not working.

Video with my problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWaXtN2 ... e=youtu.be

My load order:

content=Morrowind.esm
content=Tribunal.esm
content=Bloodmoon.esm
content=Morrowind Patch v1.6.6_beta.esm
content=Tamriel_Data.esm
content=TR_Mainland.esm
content=Aduls_Master_Mod.esm
content=MW_Children_1_0.esm
content=entertainers.esp
content=AreaEffectArrows.esp
content=bcsounds.esp
content=master_index.esp
content=LeFemmArmor.esp
content=adamantiumarmor.esp
content=EBQ_Artifact.esp
content=Better_Sounds_v1.1_Fixed.esp
content=BS_BM_WeatherChange_v1.1_Fixed.esp
content=Better_Sounds_1.1_Patch_2.omwaddon
content=RunFaster-Fast.ESP
content=Slof's Better Beasts a.esp
content=NX9_Guards_Complete.ESP
content=Better Skulls.ESP
content=LowerFirstPersonSneak.ESP
content=DB_Attack_Mod.esp
content=Dwemer and Ebony Service Refusal.ESP
content=Redoran Council Hall improvement.esp
content=Septim_Gold_v7.0.esp
content=Kindi's Illegal Items.esp
content=The Key Mod.esp
content=LPFR_TSAFW.esp
content=GITD_Telvanni_Dormers.ESP
content=Libertarian Magical Services.ESP
content=Golden Saint Variety.ESP
content=Lake Fjalding Anti-Suck.ESP
content=Communist Nerevarine.ESP
content=Vurt's Groundcover - BC, AI, WG, GL.esp
content=Vurt's Groundcover - Reeds.esp
content=Vurt's Groundcover - Solstheim.esp
content=Vurt's Groundcover - The Ashlands.esp
content=Wanted Posters.ESP
content=Siege at Firemoth.esp
content=Jiub Companion 1.3.esp
content=Better Bodies.esp
content=Mels Faces.ESP
content=Crossbows.ESP
content=Idle Talk.ESP
content=TR_Factions.esp
content=TR_Preview.esp
content=TR_Travels.esp
content=MultiMarkOMW-1.3-TR1807.esp
content=DXM_masterindex_journalfix.esp
content=Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
content=OpenHelmPack.esp
content=Aduls_Leggings.esp
content=Aduls_Leggings_Tribunal.esp
content=Aduls_Leggings_Bloodmoon.esp
content=AndromedasFastTravel_RealSignPosts.esp
content=Better Morrowind Armor.esp
content=Waterfalls Tweaks.esp
content=Clean Kagz Frogz Mod.esp
content=Fast Travel TR.esp
content=Fast Travel Health Fix.esp
content=GhostRevenge.esp
content=GhostRevenge_TR1809.ESP
content=MaiqMainland.esp
content=sell_skooma_v1.0.ESP
content=Clear Your Name v1.1.esp
content=CultSheog-1.02.ESP
content=CultSheog-TR1807.esp
content=Containers Animated.esp
content=shrinetext.esp
content=Vivec_Voice_addon TRIBUNAL.esp
content=Almalexia_Voicev1.esp
content=Xenn's Marksman Overhaul - Vanilla.ESP
content=Auto Ammò Equip for OpenMW.omwaddon
content=Main Quest Overhaul.esp
content=BetterRegen.omwaddon
content=CarryOn.omwaddon
content=CarryOnTweaks.omwaddon
content=sneaktools.omwaddon
content=sneaktools_bethesda.omwaddon
content=sneaktools_tamriel_rebuilt.omwaddon
content=ncgdMW.omwaddon
content=ncgdMW_alt_start.omwaddon
content=Better Balanced Combat.esp
content=Better Balanced Combat Advanced Mode.esp
content=Better Balanced Combat - Siege at Firemoth Patch.esp
content=Better Balanced Combat - Tamriel Rebuilt Patch.esp
content=BBC_Auto_Patch.esp
content=True Skyrimized Torches.esp
content=create-skooma.esp
content=PickFreeSlavev1.2.ESP
content=Fligg's Slave Mod.esp
content=Von Slave Market.ESP

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Capostrophic
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Re: Frenzy Humanoid Spell is Not Working

Post by Capostrophic » 11 Aug 2019, 21:28

Are you sure the effect of the scroll is powerful enough to make the NPC fight? Check the NPC's fight rating by using GetFight.
I tested it on Ian NPC in Ebonheart. His initial fight rating was 30. His modified fight rating became 60, which is pretty low.

silentthief
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Re: Frenzy Humanoid Spell is Not Working

Post by silentthief » 11 Aug 2019, 22:14

I agree with Capo that that may simply not be affecting the NPC. I would recommend making a temp save, going to a spellmaker vendor, setting up a frenzy 100 for one second on touch spell and testing this on various NPCs to make sure. The temp save can be used for this one time test and the reason I say to test that is that the spell you show in the video only gives 5 points of frenzy, which is not likely to trigger most targets to attack.

(Yes, many of the Morrowind default spells are weak. I don't know if there is a more powerful frenzy spell but I usually get the cheap ones and then use a spellmaker to make more powerful spells.)

Please test this out and let us know if this is still an issue

ST
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"Hurry, hurry! Last boat to Solstheim! Until the next one. Hah-ha-hah."

zelazko
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Re: Frenzy Humanoid Spell is Not Working

Post by zelazko » 11 Aug 2019, 22:49

Yes the spell and the scrolls were too weak. I created spell with 51-57 pts of frenzy for 2 sec and it worked but I don't know why two other NPCs attack me even though I did not cast spell on them. I wanted to make Sovor Tandel in Council Cornerclub inn to attack me so I can loot his key for Sugar-Lips quest (Thieves Guild). When I cast frenzy on Sovor Tandel two other NPCs - Mavasa Aren & Vadusa Sathryon attacked me as well.

silentthief
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Re: Frenzy Humanoid Spell is Not Working

Post by silentthief » 16 Aug 2019, 22:21

zelazko wrote:
11 Aug 2019, 22:49
Yes the spell and the scrolls were too weak. I created spell with 51-57 pts of frenzy for 2 sec and it worked but I don't know why two other NPCs attack me even though I did not cast spell on them. I wanted to make Sovor Tandel in Council Cornerclub inn to attack me so I can loot his key for Sugar-Lips quest (Thieves Guild). When I cast frenzy on Sovor Tandel two other NPCs - Mavasa Aren & Vadusa Sathryon attacked me as well.
I think that there is some kind of follow or other setting for those NPCs. Specifically, I know that there is a quest https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Larr ... Bad_People to kill those NPCs and if you attack one of them they all mob you. I know that they killed me more than once when I played. It is not a bug, those are the camonna tong characters that all don't like you, they might all follow another of the NPCs (which means that they would automatically defend who they follow) and you probably have to come back and try later at higher level

ST
"Hurry, hurry! Last boat to Solstheim! Until the next one. Hah-ha-hah."

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