Distant lands and frozen cliffracers

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Androl
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Re: Distant lands and frozen cliffracers

Post by Androl » 12 Jan 2018, 16:42

Hi, I'm a long time lurker here. How hard would it be to have a separate draw distance for actors? A few weeks ago I was experimenting with extended cell load distance and using the small feature culling to reduce the rendering load. In addition to the frozen cliff racers, the small feature culling also resulted in a lot of headless actors, which was by far the most objectionable artifact I was noticing. Having separate "draw distance" and/or "small feature culling" parameters for actors versus other objects would allow for more flexibility in tuning the performance at extended draw distances, particularly before a more advanced form of distant statics gets implemented.

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Re: Distant lands and frozen cliffracers

Post by akortunov » 13 Jan 2018, 08:16

Androl wrote:
12 Jan 2018, 16:42
separate "draw distance" and/or "small feature culling" parameters for actors
I'd prefer the second one. Or to disable actors culling completely.
In my testing "small feature culling pixel size = 8.0" was enough to notice "headless" NPCs.
But anyway with culling small objects appearing/disappearing instantly during player movement, what quite odd. Can we try to "fade" objects (e.g. by adding transparency for objects with cullingThreshold + delta size)?

About "frozen" cliffracers: I wonder how MGE handles this case.
IIRC, it did not render actor if distance to player > AI/animation distance. Near that borders actors were partially transparent.
Maybe if we manage to implement it, we will get an additional performance boost.

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Re: Distant lands and frozen cliffracers

Post by CMAugust » 13 Jan 2018, 13:11

It would be nice to see a number of "fade" options like in Oblivion and Skyrim for aesthetic and performance reasons. Example from Skyrim

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Re: Distant lands and frozen cliffracers

Post by akortunov » 13 Jan 2018, 17:08

CMAugust wrote:
13 Jan 2018, 13:11
It would be nice to see a number of "fade" options like in Oblivion and Skyrim for aesthetic and performance reasons. Example from Skyrim
Probably we need an ability to disable whole objects on particular distance to implement such sliders.

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Re: Distant lands and frozen cliffracers

Post by Androl » 17 Jan 2018, 16:24

Sliders for all the categories that Skyrim has would be great, but for now, I think that just having separate settings for actors versus statics would go a long way. Since there's already a way to disable actors in reflections, my guess is that this would be low-hanging fruit.

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Re: Distant lands and frozen cliffracers

Post by Thunderforge » 17 Jan 2018, 17:58

If we allow distant actors, but not other distant statics, would that mean that people behind walls etc would be visible from a distance before you get close enough for the walls to populate? Or am I misunderstanding the nature of the feature?

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Re: Distant lands and frozen cliffracers

Post by Androl » 17 Jan 2018, 20:49

Thunderforge wrote:
17 Jan 2018, 17:58
If we allow distant actors, but not other distant statics, would that mean that people behind walls etc would be visible from a distance before you get close enough for the walls to populate? Or am I misunderstanding the nature of the feature?
No, I'm saying it would be the other way around - distant statics but not distant actors.

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