omwlauncher bugs

[dteviot]

I see the following issues against the launcher.
https://bugs.openmw.org/issues/1899
https://bugs.openmw.org/issues/1980

They seem to be somewhat related. The launcher resets your changes (1899) because the one list is doing double duty, and on load the available plugins list is sorted into dependancy order. I'm currently investigating changing the Data Files tab, along the lines of the attached image.

Any comments?

[sjek]

Planet eldercrolls did have mod sorter which have exact same playout kinda. Would have to possibly contact mod authors... looking for it but seems little fague. Was kinda better than mlox have to say

Btw. What code changes you propose .?

Edit: yacoby's reorder mods was the program

[dteviot]

Basically what I show in the image. Have 2 lists. Left is list of all plugin file found. Other list is the plugins chosen for the profile.The issue with existing control is it combines both functions. And also tries to show dependency/load order.

[Amenophis]

What do you think about this feature propose?
http://bugs.openmw.org/issues/1928

[Zini]

@dteviot: Funny. That is exactly the re-design I wanted to propose for the content selector.

There are probably a few more issues to consider. I will do a write up for it tomorrow, but it seems you are on the right track already.

[Zini]

What do you think about this feature propose?
http://bugs.openmw.org/issues/1928

I would prefer to keep the launcher as minimal as possible. We may consider additional features later, if there are deemed sufficiently useful/demanded to bloat the launcher with them. But for now (1.0) we should stick with minimal.

[Gramblosh]

I don't think this will be that much of an improvement (if any) concerning plugin management and load order. In a typical use case for the game launcher you would have the majority of files loaded so the two panes are just duplicating the lists (just with different order). For example, I am having around 150 plugins in a usual Morrowind setup, like 140 of the are selected and the ones that are not selected are meant to be not selected (grass mods and stuff I use for testing only).

[sjek]

In vanilla install had some 200 mods installed and was pretty unstable to play and only way to make it work even some hour(s) without crashing was load order sorting and had to be +-1 accuracy in some parts.

Many were mainly code-enchanging mods like dialogue, economy, combat, mwe, mwse and so on. With multiple characters problems would have been also multiplied. By the code it's propably not gonna be so much of a issue with openmw but any powerplayer would point or ask it out in some point rather likely

And for bugtracking with mods it's surely is handy

[dteviot]

@dteviot: Funny. That is exactly the re-design I wanted to propose for the content selector.

Probably because I read your notes on https://github.com/OpenMW/openmw/pull/328
I'm working on this, but I suspect it may be a couple of weeks before I have much more to show.
I've got to learn enough of QT to both understand the existing code and figure out how to implement the new functionality.

@Gramblosh: What to you suggest to solve the problems?

[Zini]

In a typical use case for the game launcher you would have the majority of files loaded so the two panes are just duplicating the lists (just with different order)

That may be typical for you, but it is not for everybody (certainly not for me).