Open Morrowind overhaul is gone?

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Open Morrowind overhaul is gone?

Post by Cammera » 29 Jan 2018, 20:48

Not much to say; https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/45286 is gone from the nexus, and I couldn't find any relevant info neither here nor in openMW's wiki's mod list.
Anybody has any idea of what happened?

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Re: Open Morrowind overhaul is gone?

Post by lysol » 29 Jan 2018, 21:10

I personally have never even heard of this OpenMW-OP mod before, and yet I read anything OpenMW related almost daily. When did you find this mod?
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Re: Open Morrowind overhaul is gone?

Post by Cammera » 29 Jan 2018, 21:39


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Re: Open Morrowind overhaul is gone?

Post by johnelros » 30 Jan 2018, 10:40

Cammera wrote:
29 Jan 2018, 20:48
Anybody has any idea of what happened?
Now it has new webpage.
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Re: Open Morrowind overhaul is gone?

Post by RubberMan » 30 Jan 2018, 15:12

Maybe because it infringes copyright on so many levels?

Thankfully the new website has already been reported by several angry modders with pitch forks :lol:

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Re: Open Morrowind overhaul is gone?

Post by Thunderforge » 30 Jan 2018, 17:16

RubberMan wrote:
30 Jan 2018, 15:12
Maybe because it infringes copyright on so many levels?
In what way does it infringe copyright? If it does, then I think we probably ought to remove it from the mod list, since we don’t want to promote that.

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Re: Open Morrowind overhaul is gone?

Post by psi29a » 30 Jan 2018, 17:20

Possibly related?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/20 ... ul-project

The guy is trying to make money off the backs of others, I seriously he got permission from the mod's authors, otherwise he would have listed them in a copyrights/contribution document like I did for Zini's Ultima TC.

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Re: Open Morrowind overhaul is gone?

Post by lysol » 30 Jan 2018, 18:56

Exactly. We'll so how this goes. What I don't like is the name, because people might confuse it to be linked with the OpenMW project somehow. I guess it's nothing illegal about it since open source and all, but it's still kind of unethical if you ask me.

What is this, really now? A modpack? He seriously wants money for a modpack?
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Re: Open Morrowind overhaul is gone?

Post by AnyOldName3 » 30 Jan 2018, 19:30

Pre-OpenMW it wasn't possible to ask for money for a modpack as Bethesda owned the rights to anything the CS had touched. Now our open-source construction set exists (because apparently XEdit tools like TES5Edit don't count and people regard Bethesda as still owning the rights to mods made with them) people don't have to care what Bethesda think, so there'll be people trying to grab money any way they can, even if they end up violating the rights of modders (as modders are less likely to take legal action than Bethesda).
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Re: Open Morrowind overhaul is gone?

Post by Thunderforge » 30 Jan 2018, 19:45

It looks like the author of this project is forum user TimMB (he was also the one who added it to the OpenMW Wiki). So it looks like he is able to respond to these threads directly.

I went ahead and downloaded the project to see what it was. It's 2.3 GB of mods, all in .omwaddon format. It includes the official Bethesda mods and over 200 other mods. The readmes for all the mods are included in a folder. It also includes the original Morrowind music, but no other game assets that I could find.

The stated goal is as follows:
In this project I am correcting: meshes, textures, broken quests, misconfigured scripts, incorporating derived community modding works directly into the patch to reduce the number of patches needed and selectivly improving graphics.
Not a bad goal, but I couldn't find any indication that he had gotten the permission of the original mod authors, much less any agreement to make money through their work.

The author also has a GoFundMe, Patreon, and PayPal connected via NexusMods, which I won't link to so as not to encourage search engine traffic. The Kickstarter is the latest of these fundraising methods. I have no idea what the legalities are regarding making money with mods, but I suspect that making money through a modpack of others' mods isn't okay.

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