Are you trying to say that we have bad SEO because of theme design for wordpress (accessibility could be a bit low, but at this moment I don't have time to verify this with WAI/WCAG validator)? Could you give any proof of this, please?jedd wrote:Thanks.
I haven't started styling the content itself yet. I'll try to do so tomorrow.
By the way whoever coded the theme for the blog (Raevol?) has never heard of SEO, web semantics or even accessibility.
SEO is for the weak! So how do we fix it?
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Re: Two suggestion for the forum before I can start using it
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<div class="title"> </div>
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<h1><a href="./index.php" title="Board index">Test Forum</a></h1>
Another example, this time it's "semi-valid" HTML:
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<div id="nav">
<a href="http://openmw.org/">News</a>
<a href="http://openmw.org/media/">Media</a>
<a href="http://code.google.com/p/openmw/downloads/list">Downloads</a>
[etc...]
</div>
This last example is particularly funny, because it's just ridiculous: the various menus on the right of the blog are actually items (<li>) or a big list (<ul>). This makes no sense at all! All this did was make the coding task more difficult because then you need to remove the list's default style: the preceding symbol, the margins and paddings, etc.
I didn't look at the rest of the source because I was afraid to discover more horrors.
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Re: Two suggestion for the forum before I can start using it
Did you ever write any theme for wordpress? I'm just asking because that content is automatically generated by wordpress (many other CMS systems have similar behaviour) and if you wrote any theme for wordpress then you should know it.jedd wrote: Another example, this time it's "semi-valid" HTML:Putting <a> (which is an inline element) directly in a <div> is stupid. It needs to be in a <p> or a <ul>. Also, it's a good habit to always use the title property with links for better accessibility.Code: Select all
<div id="nav"> <a href="http://openmw.org/">News</a> <a href="http://openmw.org/media/">Media</a> <a href="http://code.google.com/p/openmw/downloads/list">Downloads</a> [etc...] </div>
This last example is particularly funny, because it's just ridiculous: the various menus on the right of the blog are actually items (<li>) or a big list (<ul>). This makes no sense at all! All this did was make the coding task more difficult because then you need to remove the list's default style: the preceding symbol, the margins and paddings, etc.
I didn't look at the rest of the source because I was afraid to discover more horrors.
I think talking like this is a bit useless. If you think you could make better wordpress theme, then please make it and users will choose.
Re: Two suggestion for the forum before I can start using it
I apologize if my last post didn't sound constructive to you. I was pretty drunk but I didn't mean to offend anyone.
I have worked with Wordpress in the past, just like I have worked with Drupal, Joomla, e107 and many more. All of these use a template system which you can edit.
If Wordpress was generating non-SEO content then it wouldn't be the leading blog platform and win a ton of awards, don't you think?
Since I have suggested proper changes for the points above, I am not going to linger on these concerns anymore because it's an infernal spiral that never ends. (No website will ever have perfect SEO and accessibility.) As to whether I'm going to recode the blog design as well, we shall see after the forum is done but I really doubt so.
I have worked with Wordpress in the past, just like I have worked with Drupal, Joomla, e107 and many more. All of these use a template system which you can edit.
If Wordpress was generating non-SEO content then it wouldn't be the leading blog platform and win a ton of awards, don't you think?
Since I have suggested proper changes for the points above, I am not going to linger on these concerns anymore because it's an infernal spiral that never ends. (No website will ever have perfect SEO and accessibility.) As to whether I'm going to recode the blog design as well, we shall see after the forum is done but I really doubt so.
Re: SEO is for the weak! So how do we fix it?
https://www.google.com/search?q=morrowi ... w%20engine (Behind the crystal scrolls... awkward)
https://www.google.com/search?q=morrowi ... gine%20mod
https://www.google.com/search?q=morrowind%20redone
https://www.google.com/search?q=morrowind%20fixed
https://www.google.com/search?q=morrowind%20rebuilt
More general morrowind engine/fix terms need some work.
https://www.google.com/search?q=morrowi ... gine%20mod
https://www.google.com/search?q=morrowind%20redone
https://www.google.com/search?q=morrowind%20fixed
https://www.google.com/search?q=morrowind%20rebuilt
More general morrowind engine/fix terms need some work.
Re: SEO is for the weak! So how do we fix it?
@Raevol: you're not taking much risk searching for the project's name leo's examples are more realistic already. The best would be to see the website statistics (Google Analytics or Piwik, provided someone has set those up) to see the list of referers and the associated search terms. You might be surprised.
I have given solutions to the biggest problems I've seen so far on my detailed post above. Now I won't be part of this discussion since I have quit web development after 4 years of boredom and frustration. I am now into games and I'm never going back. There are tons of great resources about SEO, semantics and accessibility out there, starting with w3.org
I have given solutions to the biggest problems I've seen so far on my detailed post above. Now I won't be part of this discussion since I have quit web development after 4 years of boredom and frustration. I am now into games and I'm never going back. There are tons of great resources about SEO, semantics and accessibility out there, starting with w3.org
Re: SEO is for the weak! So how do we fix it?
Sorry, I've always though SEO was basically snake oil, and you're just confirming that for me. But more power to you if you can get us more traffic, especially contributing developer traffic.
Re: SEO is for the weak! So how do we fix it?
Also try "Morrowind reimplementation" or "Morrowind engine reimplementation"
Re: SEO is for the weak! So how do we fix it?
https://www.google.hr/search?q=morrowin ... refox-betaGreendogo wrote:Also try "Morrowind reimplementation" or "Morrowind engine reimplementation"
https://www.google.hr/search?q=morrowin ... refox-beta